First was the X11 vs. NeWS War

• NeWS had some good ideas (and some bad ones), and was delivered prematurely and stillborn

  • Postscript based window system
  • Fundamental mistake: UI's are bound up with applications, and difficult to separate

• Sun Proprietary

  • Never "open sourced"

• James Gosling went on to do Java

  • This time, he built a decent language
  • And you typically move the entire application
  • Java still not fully open, with resulting heartache...